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#251 2016-07-04 16:58:53

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Yes, dimensional manipulation... but the dimension in question is the size of a walk-in closet.  Keep in mind that, at its core, Conjuring does only one thing:  It moves an item from point A to point B, without moving through the points between A and B.  The Conjuring Room is a VERY small segment of... subspace, neospace, hyperspace... whatever you want to call it.  It's a small piece of emptiness created by a wizard to hold their junk.  Having said that, the Conjuring Room is really nothing more than an alternate "Point B".  So while, sure, you could look at it as dimensional manipulation if you wanted to, that is making it into a far more grandiose thing than it actually is.  And keep in mind that the Conjuring Room itself is not something that all conjuring wizards are capable of, so to research beyond that would help fewer and fewer people, anyway.  Consider:  Delquin Quayde held his job because the school couldn't find another qualified instructor.  That speaks loads about how many strong conjurers there are.

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PS: To be clear, Conjuring that does not involve the Conjuring Room isn't dimensional manipulation at all.  It is the conversion of mass to energy and back.


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#252 2016-07-04 18:41:16

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

WOW !  Lots of action.  Be interesting to see if one of the gang was the serial killer.  Guess we'll have to wait another month.

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#253 2016-07-05 02:48:17

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Oh Yes - times are getting really really interesting (in the chinese sense of course)
Cheers

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#254 2016-07-05 03:00:07

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Hi Wasted - I believe its bigger than the clan, which is IMHO, merely the human side (and a suitable brute force) of the dark battle which is brewing. Twelve dead bodies in what I believe will be a pentecostal shape, mmm, very dark magic and bad news for David methinks. I think Eric is setting the scene for the bad stuff to come.
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#255 2016-07-05 03:34:37

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

I'm... not sure that's the word you meant to use, Kiwozi.  ("pentecostal", that is...)

Oh, and his name's not "Wasted", that's his rank.  His name is right above that, just like yours is above "Tipsy".

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#256 2016-07-05 07:20:50

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

quick question: and possible {minor} spoiler...



in Chap 4 you said that

"She wasn't just picked up, raped, and dumped. She was picked up, held, probably raped repeatedly, and killed when this asshole was done with her."

Yet in later chapters you seem to indicate that they are kidnapped, and show up sometime the next day, which doesn't seem to fit the clues from the first body...

quoting from Chap 5:

"Right," David agreed. "Hour and a half there, hour and a half back. When did Miss Horkheuser go missing?"

"Sunday afternoon was the last time she was seen. She didn't make it back to her dorm room that night."

"Okay. She was found Monday morning. So this slimeball did whatever he did, and dropped the body, in one night. "

am I mis-understanding things?


// Edited to include quote tags as well as add second quoted reference (and this tag *grin*)

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#257 2016-07-05 13:25:58

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Eric Storm wrote:

Yes, dimensional manipulation... but the dimension in question is the size of a walk-in closet.  Keep in mind that, at its core, Conjuring does only one thing:  It moves an item from point A to point B, without moving through the points between A and B.  The Conjuring Room is a VERY small segment of... subspace, neospace, hyperspace... whatever you want to call it.  It's a small piece of emptiness created by a wizard to hold their junk.  Having said that, the Conjuring Room is really nothing more than an alternate "Point B".  So while, sure, you could look at it as dimensional manipulation if you wanted to, that is making it into a far more grandiose thing than it actually is.  And keep in mind that the Conjuring Room itself is not something that all conjuring wizards are capable of, so to research beyond that would help fewer and fewer people, anyway.  Consider:  Delquin Quayde held his job because the school couldn't find another qualified instructor.  That speaks loads about how many strong conjurers there are.

Eric Storm

PS: To be clear, Conjuring that does not involve the Conjuring Room isn't dimensional manipulation at all.  It is the conversion of mass to energy and back.

"conversion of mass to energy" you mean one of the things that could be only experimented with after the construction of The Large Hadron Collider I don't think that is a lesser subject and if I am not wrong the theory of the atomic bomb is based in the concept of "conversion of mass to energy" so if you say that there is no importance or fields to do magical research in there I can only say ok

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#258 2016-07-05 17:44:46

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veon: Yes, it is, SCIENTIFICALLY, a very difficult concept.  Magically, it's a no-brainer.  You simply cannot equate how difficult it is to do something with science to how important the subject is in magic.  Try levitating something.  Try then moving that object over to your hand.  Do all of this without having any physical connection with that item.  In science, as far as I know, this is STILL an impossibility.  In magic, it's a first-year spell.  There is simply no one-to-one connection.  "It's hard with science, so it must be hard with magic..."  It's a complete fallacy. 

Also, it would be nice if you didn't put words in my mouth.  I never said there was no research to be done converting mass to energy in magic.  I said there was no research to be done in that area AS IT PERTAINS TO CONJURING.  Far as I know, the atomic bomb didn't conjure anything.  As it pertains to magic, once you've converted the object to magical energy, there's no more to be determined about "how do I do that?"  Likewise, once you've converted the magical energy back to matter, there's no more to be discovered about "how did I do that?"  Whatever research would be done would be about "how can I conjure something in a different fashion?"  Well... sorry, but there are actually only so many ways to move an object from point A to point B.

So, finally, let's have it:  What is it you want them to learn about Conjuring?  There has to be something you want discovered, or you would simply not be working this hard to convince me that research in the field was necessary.  Just what is it you believe there is to be discovered in the field of conjuring?

fathertyme: It's not inconsistent.  They never said he held the victim for "days".  They were simply stating that he didn't pick her up, use her, and dump her, one-two-three.  He picked her up, used her repeatedly over the course of the night, and then dumped her in the morning.

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#259 2016-07-06 01:05:30

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Thanks for the corrections Eric.

In terms of Pentecostal. It is strange what the mind will do at times. I recently finished a book where the Pentagram and Hexagram were used for both the traditional religious (including Pentecostal ceremonies) and occult uses. I guess I just got a little confused. I did actually l mean a Hexgram and its use for occult and magic purposes.

In terms of using Wasted instead of Rescue 25, well lets be honest here and say I was the wasted one at the time and when what I saw was transmuted into my all seeing eye, it really turned out I was blind drunk. 3dsmile

Anyway this is a fantastic series you have here and well worth a donation to get thing hot off the  press(fingertips).

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#260 2016-07-06 02:13:57

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Eric Storm wrote:

veon: Yes, it is, SCIENTIFICALLY, a very difficult concept.  Magically, it's a no-brainer.  You simply cannot equate how difficult it is to do something with science to how important the subject is in magic.  Try levitating something.  Try then moving that object over to your hand.  Do all of this without having any physical connection with that item.  In science, as far as I know, this is STILL an impossibility.  In magic, it's a first-year spell.  There is simply no one-to-one connection.  "It's hard with science, so it must be hard with magic..."  It's a complete fallacy. 

Also, it would be nice if you didn't put words in my mouth.  I never said there was no research to be done converting mass to energy in magic.  I said there was no research to be done in that area AS IT PERTAINS TO CONJURING.  Far as I know, the atomic bomb didn't conjure anything.  As it pertains to magic, once you've converted the object to magical energy, there's no more to be determined about "how do I do that?"  Likewise, once you've converted the magical energy back to matter, there's no more to be discovered about "how did I do that?"  Whatever research would be done would be about "how can I conjure something in a different fashion?"  Well... sorry, but there are actually only so many ways to move an object from point A to point B.

So, finally, let's have it:  What is it you want them to learn about Conjuring?  There has to be something you want discovered, or you would simply not be working this hard to convince me that research in the field was necessary.  Just what is it you believe there is to be discovered in the field of conjuring?

fathertyme: It's not inconsistent.  They never said he held the victim for "days".  They were simply stating that he didn't pick her up, use her, and dump her, one-two-three.  He picked her up, used her repeatedly over the course of the night, and then dumped her in the morning.

Eric Storm

First I understood what you said about not having a relation between research in science versus magic what I had intended in demonstrate with my examples was the complexity and mysteries of the forces at play not that is one relate to the other.

Second I never intended in doing as you said 'put words in my mouth' I was only trying to understand conjuring since I had apparently completely misunderstood it so if anything that I wrote has offended you I ask that you forgive me since I only started to write in english last year and may have expressed myself in a disrespectful way. It was not my intent to do so.

Third I was not trying to convince you of anything if you read the previous posts you may notice the conversation about research was initiated after you said that there was nothing more to discover in conjuration and as I stated before that bugged me and all started because I had a misunderstanding of the speed of conjuration and as you instructed me a wronged idea of its potential in combat or apprehending suspects or helping in investigations so I am not trying to force your opinion only honestly trying to understand. So thanks for spending your time answering me and sorry for inconveniencing you. ps. the info about the teleportation that you said before is interesting and I didn't know about it.

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#261 2016-07-06 06:41:03

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

The bit about personal teleportation was mentioned in book 3, the scene with the mestapirs.

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#262 2016-07-06 15:37:40

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Just for my own edification, have we been told about David getting his top ranking in the Diviner's guild yet?  I remember him being told that he had qualified, but since someone of that rank wasn't there he couldn't officially be given the rank yet.

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#263 2016-07-06 15:57:18

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

We have not, and he hasn't been.  It's a sticky issue for the guild, they're trying to work through it in their bylaws.

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#264 2016-07-08 03:53:00

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Okay I have a question Eric and no this will not be drawn out. Divination magic to foresee the future and even using it to see current events is more or less not admissible in court. Then why can David use his Dalmajak Cynosure to track the scroll that was stolen from the royal archives? Why do the Rimohrs emit Davids recorder in the trial against Mr. Arpilla? Are there different rules to divination items? If so what are they?

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#265 2016-07-08 04:57:50

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

1. The Dalmajak Cynosure was not admitted as EVIDENCE.  It was admitted as "probable cause".  The EVIDENCE was the fact that the man had the scroll in his possession when he was stopped.

2. The recorder was certified by a royally certified diviner.  Such recorders have tamper-resistant features that are very hard to break.  Much like the trace (another divinatory tactic), these methods have been perfected over centuries to be as foolproof as possible.  As such, they are permitted as evidentiary.

In the wider sense, yes, divinatory objects do get a bit more leniency than actual diviners.  Why?  Personal divination is open to interpretation by the diviner, AND the diviner is the only one who sees such divination.  A divinatory object divines whatever it was designed to divine, without interpretation, and its divination is able to be witnessed by anyone.  It can still be fooled, however, which is why most will still not be admissable as evidence in court.  Divinatory objects will often be admissable, as the Cynosure was, as probable cause for a further investigation by the Rimohrs.

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#266 2016-07-08 23:22:28

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Ah. Thank you for straightening that out for me. I love the fact that I can ask questions like this on the forum. It sure does beat the old way of doing it thorough e-mail and letters.

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#267 2016-07-09 00:03:24

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Honestly, I still prefer emails, as it allows for more personalized responses, but I'm happy to get whatever feedback I can.

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#268 2016-07-11 01:57:58

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Hi this might be a dumb question but i cant read any chapters of year six except for chapter 1. And im just wondering how i can fix it. When i wanna go forward to chapter too the arrow  is grey and its the same in select chapter. Thanks in advance.

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#269 2016-07-11 02:15:11

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Everything past chapter 1 of year 6 is currently in PRM (Pre-release Material).  If you would like access to this, you can do one of three things:
1. Donate to Eric's site to gain access (I believe $6 is enough to gain...six months? of access)
2. Wait until next month and then Chapter 2 will be available, because it takes that long for things to fall out of PRM and Eric posts a new chapter on the first of every month.
3. (The most difficult way) Become an author on this site.

I hope this has answered your query.


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#270 2016-07-11 02:19:05

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WolfKnight, if you donate to the site through the system on the front page, Mr. Storm grants you access to the Pre-Release Material (PRM).  The base amount is 1 month of PRM access per $1 donated with a minimum of $6 needed to qualify for the access.  As someone that has read the PRM, it is DEFINITELY worth access to it.  Remember though that once you have access it is NOT permanent so let's say you donate the minimum of $6 and get the 6 months of access; in 7 months when you want to read the next chapter that just got put up on the PRM availability, you won't be able to because your time will have run out.  Considering that Eric gives authors a site like this to post to and us as readers a site that is completely free if we want it to be, I think the donations are the least we can o for the man.  I mean, Hell, his are some of the best stories I have ever read, ANYWHERE.

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#271 2016-07-11 02:50:20

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

What they said.

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#272 2016-07-11 12:21:51

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Re: Woodward Academy, Year 6, The

Thanks this cleared it al up for me. i just joined wolfpub so im still learning so to speak. And i agree that the stories here are absolutely amazing and really well composed. So the least we can do as readers is to donate something if we can afford to show our appreciation and support for wolfpub. And Id also like to say thanks for the amazing stories you write for us to read    3dsmile

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#273 2016-07-12 10:54:59

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Hi Eric, just wanted to start by saying that I enjoyed every story that I have read so far. Please keep up the good work.

You have created some very interesting story arcs, which I am looking forward to reading more of. From what I read, you are planning to coninue with WA until year 8...at least. And there are enough loose ends for you to write spinoffs in this universe.

What I am most curious about are the following questions (which I do not expect answers to, as those will need to be answered in the following chapters/books):
How will the relationship between between David and Olissa develop in the future? As you already commented on Sam having a sex scene soon, the question about exclusivity should already be answered.
What kind of relationship to David is Emile really looking for? From his point of view it is most likely just like with all women, that he will follow her lead and take what she is willing to give, even if she is some kind of replacement mother for him.
Where are his limits as wizard?
What will he really do as a job (i honestly don't see him becoming a Rimohr, as it would limit the character too much)? Even if he doesn't want to teach, would he be able to turn Emile down, if she asked him to stay?

Now something you might be willing to answer?
As you pointed out, Conjuring currently has a max rank of 5, but being more or less open end. If a level 4 conjurer is not able to grant level 5 to a clearly more skilled wizard, will a level 5 conjurer be able to grant level 6? Let's hope for some loophole in their by-laws.

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#274 2016-07-12 12:45:08

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Actually Sniper, he has sort of answered that one already.  If you go back and read some of the previous posts in this thread, only the greatest of Conjurors have been able to "teleport" themselves.  I would imagine that at least one of them sits on the lead council of the guild or is available to the guild to assign whatever rank that would equate to.  If not, demonstration of that skill, I would assume, has to have been set up as either a "with Clusters" (similar to military ranks in the U.S. Military e.g. Oak Leaf with Cluster or going from naval Lieutenant J.G. to Lieutenant where the color of the bars change) or automatic assignation of the rank.

David's skills seem set to make him INCREDIBLY dangerous as a support man in the coming issues, especially if he ever demonstrates that particular ability inside Conjuring.

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#275 2016-07-12 17:01:55

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Actually, fenixreign, none of those four wizards is still alive.  It's not "four living wizards".  It's four wizards, EVER.

Sniper:

1. Olissa and David's relationship:  This will be cleared up for you in the January chapter.
2. David and Emile's relationship:  This is Need To Know, and you don't... yet.  3dsmile  I will say this:  The primary driving force in their relationship is respect and trust.  Take from that what you will.
3. David's limits: He's a demighost.  He will live, literally, forever.  The likelihood is that he and his kind do not have limits until the limits of magic itself are reached.  Of course, what you'll see within the story is somewhat different.
4. David's Job: First off, you see Rimohr as "limiting to the character"... but he will not have a career within the series, so how it would reflect on the books is not important.  But the question is sort of silly.  You expect David to have only one career... forever?  David's "Job" will be a many and varied thing over the coming millennia and eons.  Yes, at some point he will be a Rimohr.  At some point, he will teach.  At some point, he will go work in Earth.  At some point, he might even be King (though I doubt it).  If you mean "what job will he take on right after school?"... that question is more complex than you might imagine.
5. I never said that Conjuring had a "max rank" of five.  I simply said that there was no one present at his test to give David a rank above four.  And no, a level 5 in the guild would not currently be able to grant level 6.  It's a flaw in their system that has come about due to the extreme rarity of the higher level conjurers.  David would be one of less than fifty level 5 conjurers in the guild's history.  Were he to progress to level 6, he would be one of a dozen or so.  The maximum ever attained by a conjurer would be level 7, and that would be one of those four that managed teleportation. (The other three died before the guild existed.)  As I said earlier, the guild is trying to rework its bylaws to cover an obvious flaw in the ranking system.  But level four is the... "common stopping point" for strong conjurers.  If you're really good at it, you can expect to attain level 4 eventually.  Only the very best progress beyond that point.

Hope that helps clear up at least some of the questions.  Thanks for your interest,
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