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I wish I was as sanguine as you about the unelectability of Hillary Clinton.  I could live with a Democrat that stood by their guns - Not that I would LIKE them, but I could at least respect them - but given that Hillary's idea of leadership is apparently to change her opinion to suit the group she happens to be talking to at the time, I can't respect that, and I don't want it leading our country.

Unfortunately, I don't see a Republican candidate who's really worth electing.  Giuliani is a Dem in GOP clothing, quite frankly.  McCain, as you've said, is kind of out of the race at this point, and neither Huckabee nor Thompson has much of a shot at things unless something very surprising happens.

Obama is too inexperienced to get elected.  I honestly don't remember who else is in the running on the Dem side.  I think the Dem ticket will be Hillary, possibly with Obama as VP.

I will probably vote for the Republican candidate on the grounds that I do NOT want Hillary Clinton being the first female president of the United States.  (Note:  I have nothing against a female being President.  I just don't want HER being President.) 

I am an economic conservative and a social centrist  (Which means I believe in leaving the corporations alone, for the most part; fixing the damned tax system with a national sales tax; redefining "marriage" as a religious term and using "civil union" as the legal definition of ALL pairings, straight and gay; legalizing most drugs; and redefining "statutory rape" to require a psychological profiling of the "victim" to determine whether they were capable of understanding the situation or not...)  I have never found a candidate that actually meets these criteria, so I vote for the least bad of my options, in my opinion.

So, yeah, I will probably end up voting for Giuliani, who is likely to be the GOP candidate, unless someone better comes along, which I doubt.

Net Wolf

You know, I hear people keep saying this... "Eight years of Bush..."

This is a serious question:  What's he actually done that's all that bad?

- Iraq needed to happen, whether or not we found the WMD (They WERE there.  But you give a guy a month to hide something, he's gonna do a damned good job... like giving them to a neighbor country such as Syria...).  While I don't think this region will ever house a stable democracy, getting Saddam out of there was a worthwhile goal in and of itself.  Why are we still there?  Well, to me, fighting terrorists in Baghdad is much better than fighting them in Boston...

- Yes, we have a budget deficit again.  Wars will do that.

- Despite the Democrats' bitching, the tax cuts worked.  The statistics show this.

So, I mean, honestly, what is it that he's done that is so egregious that he is considered such a lousy President?  I don't think he's been one of our better Presidents, no, but I just don't see where he's done all that bad. I'd like to point out one more thing:  We haven't had another terrorist attack on American soil in six years... I highly doubt that's a coincidence...

Net Wolf